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The other thing with desculpe/a is that you don't really use it as much as you would in English (I'm British so overuse "sorry" anyway) - I've had several minor situations where I've said it and people have replied saying some version of "forgive you for what?".

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I should say this is always slightly gruff older Portuguese, I think younger people use it a lot more like we do, possibly an influence from being bilingual

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Interesting. Thank you!

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